Thursday, January 21, 2010

January Twenty One

The rain is coming down. No exciting thunder and lightning just actual rain. Thank you Lord for letting me be a stay at home mom. Sales was not fun in the rain. Quotas didn't change so being at home in this is amazing!
My girls are gonna want to puddle jump today. Now where did I hide their princess umbrellas....

Bildad's first responsee to Job
Job 8:4 says Your children must have sinned against him, so their punishment was well deserved.
This was a deal with God and satan. why would it say this?????? I know that Bildad is just human and he may just be trying to comfort Job BUT!!!!!
The bible is broken down into scriptures which means someone can just take that verse and go off on it... Does that make sense. We all have vs. written on paper or on plaques on the wall. Couldn't this be taken the wrong way????? It scares me when pastors take scripture and swist it to sound the way they want. So were the people evil or was it satan or maybe both??? Maybe this is why God allowed it????
Here are some questionalble examples:

Job's third speech: a response to Bildad
Wow~~~> Favorite vs of the day Job 9:4 For God is so wise and so mighty Who has ever challenged him successfully? Love it!!
Job 10:33-35 If Only there wefre a mediator between us,someone who could bring us together. The mediator could make god stop beating me, and I woul dnot longer live in terror of his punishment. Then I could speak to thim without fear, but i cannot do that in my own strength. Could this be Jesus ????

Job frames his plea to God
He is opening his heart to God saysing he is
Zophar's first response to Job
I love this!! To me it seems that Zophar is saying Yo Job. You are not so high and mighty and perfect. If this is a punishment, you are a sinner and punishing you far less than you deserve.
Is Zophar telling him to give it to God???
Job 11:13 If only you would prepare your hear and lift up your hands to him in prayer is he saying okay let it out then praise him????


Mills Memories said...

Hey Kathye - not quite sure I understand what you are asking to give you any help. Wanna clarify? :)

Jesus is now our meditor, well the Holy Spirit (Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit [is], because He makes intercession for the saints according to [the will of] God. Romans 8:26-27). Sin separated us from God, but when Christ died on the cross the gap was bridged by Christ.

From what I have studied of Job, his friends were not the most godly in their counsel. It is more like they are repeatedly telling Job, "you don't have enough faith and you must have done something wrong to deserve what is happening to you". So here (Job 11:13) I see it as his friend saying, "Pray and ask to go forgiven so everything can get better". They apparently didn't know how close Job was to God!

Mommy Melback said...

his friends were not the most godly in their counsel.--->THANK YOU my friend. That cleared up ALOT. I just assumed they were giving godly advice. I see it totally different now.
To clarify my other questions. How do we know how to take vs. by vs.. If I was evil I could take a vs out of the bible and twist is any way I want. That is what I was asking re: the Joes Osteen and Pat Robertson. How do I know what to believe. Because vs's are used so much individualy,with out the whole understanding of the chapter or scripture. I think it is too big to just ask on the continue :) love ya!!

Mommy Melback said...

P.S. This is amazing to me. These comments are exactly what I need. I get to focus on reading and getting the whole bible this year and send the questions out.. Thank you!!

Mills Memories said...

Oh, I see what you are asking. It depends greatly on the verse. Cults and such can so easily take a verse COMPLETELY out of context. While it is not bad to focus on a verse that speaks to us, we cannot just focus attention on some verses and ignore others. KWIM!

For example: "As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached?" (1 Cor. 14:33b-36 NIV).

This is a verse that should not be looked at OUT of context or out of the culture of the day for that matter! Yes the Bible says that women are not to speak in church, but that is because at the time men and women sat on separate side of the church. A woman would have a question and call out to her husband which then disrupts the entire service. So Paul is telling women to remain silent and save her questions for home.